Posted by also canadiah on November 08, 2002 at 21:23:05:
In Reply to: Re: Can someone tell me why Canada hates the US? posted by spud canuck on November 08, 2002 at 17:04:17:
: : - No that was very wierd. People in my "group"???
: Yep, your group. You know, the descendents of American immigrants you kept talking about?
- Ahh, you assume I'm descended from America. Sorry, but no.
: : - It should be challenged because YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE! You are not allowed to pay a canadian doctor to have surgery done in your hometown. You have to take the public system, and in many cases languish for months on a waiting list. The view many take is that if you can't afford something, nobody else should be able to buy it! that's the canadian way. A lady in Victoria died in a waiting room this thanksgiving after having a HEART ATTACK! Yet another life sacrificed to canada's socialist golden calf.
: Ahm, poor example. For every Canadian you mention who died waiting for medical care, there is an American who died because they were turned away when they couldn't pay for medical services. There are also people there who lanquish for months on a waiting list. And yes, you can pay for medical service here if you so choose. On the wall of my local hospital is a list of fees for services if you don't have a health card. Not much of a choice, but a choice all the same. But I guess this is all just junk to you. I guess to you it is better that people who can't afford medical treatment die so that you have less taxes.
- That is such a canadian MYTH! I think it was the govenor of Oregon who was up in Vancouver once when a reporter asked him how long a homeless person would have to wait in America to get surgery. He literally didn't understand the question. He asked why they would have to wait at all! In America they have "County hospitals" they have medicade and medicare. And even Oregon was smart enough to vote down a communist health care bill in the last election.
: : - America doesn't fund crap promoting "culture", or people being different.
: When it comes to cultural differences, that is true, mainly because in American society cultural differences tend to be blended in rather than encouraged to thrive (not that I'm saying this is a bad approach, just a different one). However, they do have ad campaigns (and rightfully so) for such things as tolerating homosexuality, improving gender equality, and so forth.
- I don't think these ads are paid for by government money. And canada doesn't encourage people to thrive, it buy's votes from some greatful immigrant communities who play a big part in voting them in.
: : - I don't think it was pointless, it showed atlantic canadians were better off taking bottom of the barrel American jobs than the government created canadian ones. Boy regional transfers sure help create opportunity doesn't it? (weren't a lot of them going to Maine?)
: Wrong again, they already had jobs. They went to the States because they were better equipped to handle the heavy snowfall conditions, and their departent was able to spare them at that time. And yes, the American government did pay them better than they normally were, because if they hadn't, our guys wouldn't have had much motivation to go over there, would they?
- The article I read said they were taking jobs as dishwashers and such.
: : - Yeah, My province would be A HELL OF A LOT BETTER!!! if it weren't for the rest of the country STEALING from us!!! Probably a lot more free as well.
: No, it wouldn't have been. Without being part of the much larger confederation, odds are your province wouldn't have survived financially during the last century. Even if it had survived, it wouldn't be in anywhere near the good shape it is now. Their monetary system wouldn't have been anywhere near as good as the Canadian one. As for freedom, to the best of my knowledge, Canadians have the same human and legal rights that our American counterparts have. And as I have said before, if the people there didn't want to be Canadian citizens, they could just vote to leave the confederation.
- Yeah never, underestimate the great effects crushing taxes have on nurturing your economy. And Canada doesn't even have the unequivocal right to voice your opinion. Dr. Laura's deemed to dangerous in our new world order type country.
: : - Ah yes, biting the hand that feeds me. Set up a welfare state, and force people in to it. Then claim they're somehow in debt to the government for this wonderful system.
: Yep, you are. You are taking advantage of the great opportunities Canadians have, the ones that have put us at or near the top of the world's best countries to live for years now, and then you are complaining bitterly about supposed hardships you are enduring. I'm sure people in most middle eastern countries, or many European, African and South Americans, would find these hardships to be very easy to endure.
- Ah yes, the great opportunity of welfare state keeping me attached to the government. Oh and I assume your refering to that bs UN "quality of life" index that puts adult literacy rate on par with standard of living. Not even canadians support a welfare state when they see the effects it causes. If a welfare state were so great people would be flocking to live in Newfoundland!!!